Thursday, October 25, 2012

Frankenstein Paradise Lost Question 3

Revenge is a common motif in Frankenstein.  Where is Paradise Lost does Satan {the Creature} describe revenge?  What is his attitude toward revenge? {How is this similar to the Creature in Frankenstein?}

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  1. In the Paradise Lost the creature says that, "That with the mightiest rais'd me to contend, And to the fierce contention brought along Innumerable force of Spirits arm'd
    That durst dislike his reign, and me preferring,
    His utmost power with adverse power oppos'd
    In dubious Battel on the Plains of Heav'n,
    "(line99) so he immediately says that he lost the first time but he is going to still fight back until he wins and that he will build an army to help him defeat his enemies kingdom.(line105) "He'll never be able to take away my free will, my revenge, my hate, or my courage never to give up." In this he really says that he will always want revenge so it never goes away its will be with him forever. From this part it makes it sound as if his attitude towards revenge is pride. That he has accepted it and it will be like a goal or a mission for him.

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    1. "He'll never be able to take away my free will, my revenge, my hate, or my courage never to give up." (105) I love that Taylor Matus brought up this line. It is very powerful and could have easily been the words of the creature. Both Paradise Lost and Frankenstein allow readers to experience a different point of view. Love and compassion can be felt for both Satan and the creature in these pieces of literature. Humans are not perfect, so often times it is much easier to sympathize with those that feel pain. Satan and the creature had good intentions from the start. Over time, their ideals and motives became twisted and contorted by pain, rejection, and defeat. Another powerful trait, both these characters display is their perseverance. As miserable as their situations become, they continue to live and exist. Although their reasons may be strange and difficult to identify with, their utter desperation to cling to that which is dear to them is inspiring. Their revenge forces them to continue life and struggle through.

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  2. Great passage from Taylor! It is one great way that paradise lost connects with Frankenstein. I could really see the creature saying that exact phrase, "he'll never be able to take away my free will, my revenge, my hate, or my courage never to give up." I could also see this phrase almost going the other way, that Victor towards the end would say something like this. But eventually Victor gives up, he hates this creature he created. After everything is gone both the creature and Victor realize how unhappy they really are and both end up dying. They had miserable situations as Micaela had stated. Satan wanted much revenge, he wanted to be powerful and do whatever he needed. As did Victor, he wanted to become well known and make great scientific discoveries. But in comparison the creature is also the type of Satan-like figure too. He knows the rights and wrongs but he still kills everybody close to his creator. The creature just wanted revenge like Satan did.

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  3. Satan's idea of revenge is portrayed in his desire to regain his former place in heaven. Having been cast out, he desires to humiliate and overthrow God, and attain his former glory. By losing this, he changes, becoming vent on a revenge that he will not succeed in completing. Comparing it to the creature, you see the same motive. If the creature can not regain himself and be happy by Victor's side, then he will overthrow Victors Heaven, and put himself above. Both of their revenge is driven from a desire for love, not power.

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  4. Satan's idea of revenge stems from his desire to regain the love and power he once held in Heaven. It is those needs that drive him to overthrow and humiliate God. As with the creature, who only desires a form of love from either his master(Victor) or one similar. Its when they both lose that love that they begin to desire revenge and thus will do anything to get it. Whether thats starting a holy war between friends, or killing the loved ones of your creator.

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